if we fall off this fiscal cliff, people are not going to care whose fall it is, they are just going to know we're in a deeper abyss. lou: we have our eyes to follow, we see speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell in washington. the president is not there. that has to be a tough sell? isn't it? >> there is a long way to tiperary . when it comes to these negotiation, predent was willing last year to haveore cuts than tax increases, he is still there. this is going to be a long process, we will get there. if we don't, it is not the end of the world. world. lou: you are going down in history as fellow who called a multitrillion dollar reversal a bunny hill. >> it won't be. lou: i admire your certainty. >> there are two key points we've not discussed. i think that the president wants to go over the fiscal cliff, he wants all of the tax rates to go up, he needs that revenue,nd more important we know he is not going to get blamed. the madial protect him -- media will protect h. the other thing, this president, for a long time has tald about a balanced approach to deficit reduction, we assumed